I found a scam email twelve thousand
我发现了一封诈骗电子邮件，价值一万二千
dollars I'm going to get you to work for
美元，我要让你为
that money he's created the perfect
这笔钱工作，他创造了完美的
Persona of a victim we've kidnapped this
受害者角色，我们绑架了这个
guy we're taking him to the outskirts of
人，我们将把他带到
Amsterdam we're going to collect the
阿姆斯特丹郊区，我们要收集
money to see the opportunity slip out of
看到机会从
their hands it must be really
他们手中溜走的钱，这一定很
infuriating my name is Mr pricky I
令人恼火，我的名字是刺先生，我
engage with internet scammers waste
与网络诈骗者打交道，浪费
their time and have a lot of fun doing
他们的时间，而且这样做很有趣，
so
thank you
谢谢，
I've never wanted to be part of
我从来不想成为
mainstream society that bloke that looks
主流社会的一部分 那个每年在西班牙
forward to his weekends and his dreary
期待着周末和沉闷
holiday in someone else's misery in
假期的家伙，在别人的痛苦中，
Spain each year where every night puts
每天晚上都把
his towel on the lounges so he can be
他的毛巾放在休息室上，这样他就可以
first place next to the pool in the
在早上立即成为泳池边的第一名，
morning
straight away Mr pricky seems like a
刺先生似乎是一个
very intriguing character for me as a
非常 作为一名精神病学家，他的性格对我来说很有趣，
psychiatrist and I think he also
我想他也
probably is a thrill seeker I moved to
可能是一个寻求刺激的人。2000 年代初，我在
become a civil servant with the ministry
国防部重新工作后成为一名公务员。
of Defense back at work in the early
2000s a fax arrived from West Africa
一份传真从西非发来，
supposedly from a prince who was
据说是一位王子向
offering us millions of dollars I was
我们提供的。 数百万美元 我被
infuriated these characters I I found
这些人物激怒了 我发现
them despicable that they were trying to
他们很卑鄙，他们试图
cheat ordinary innocent people a couple
欺骗普通无辜的人
of years later I was listening to the
几年后，我正在
radio and there was a guy on there
听广播，那里有一个人正在
talking about this community in UK who
谈论英国的这个社区，他们
thwarted Advanced fee fraud scammers by
阻止了高级费用欺诈 骗子通过
replying to their emails and pretending
回复他们的电子邮件并假装
to be real prospective victims and I
成真正的潜在受害者，我
listened to this and I thought
听了这个，我认为
this sounds really interesting
这听起来真的很有趣，
I found a scam email in one of my
我在我的一个收件箱中发现了一封诈骗电子邮件，
inboxes somebody pretending to be a
有人假装是
doctor Chief Edward Cannes director of
医生爱德华·坎城
procurement for the Federal Ministry of
联邦采购总监
Health in Nigeria he had been involved
尼日利亚卫生部称，他参与了
in an over invoiced contract there is a
一份高额发票合同，为该
surplus amount of cash that was
allocated for the contract which wasn't
合同分配了多余的现金，但没有
spent and it's now sat in an account and
花掉，现在放在一个账户中，
he said he had control of that account
他说他控制着该账户，
and the 12 million dollars he was
并且 1200万美元，他正在
looking for someone in the west who
西方寻找一个
would agree to work with him and launder
愿意与他合作的人，并将
these 12 million dollars from this
这1200万美元从这个
account into their own account
账户洗到他们自己的账户中，
and keep 40 of the money and give him
并保留其中的40%，
the remaining sixty percent hmm
剩下的60%给他，嗯，
I'm going to have some fun with you Dr
我要去 和你玩得开心肯尼斯博士
Chief Kennis
I replied to him
我回复他
pretending to be a naive gullible
假装是一个天真易受骗的
elderly man with a bit of cash in the
老人，银行里有一点现金
bank he's created the perfect Persona of
他创造了完美的
a victim somebody who's elderly who's
受害者角色一个老人谁
gullible and who has money he's almost
容易受骗而且有钱他几乎被
used the scammers greed against him I
骗子利用了 对他的贪婪我
generally drop into my emails or my
通常会在我的电子邮件或电话中写下
phone calls words like shares
诸如股票、
stocks
lump sum retirement in order to give
一次性退休之类的字眼，以便让
them an idea about how lucrative you
他们了解
would be as a real victim how scams like
作为真正的受害者，你会获得多少利润，像这样的骗局是如何运作的，
this work is like the scammer is almost
就像骗子几乎
going fishing so he'll send out hundreds
要去钓鱼一样 所以他会发送数百
of emails knowing that only a very small
封电子邮件，因为他知道实际上只有很小
proportion will actually be responded to
一部分会得到回复，
and he's looking for somebody that's
而且他正在寻找一个
vulnerable that's probably a bit naive
脆弱的人，可能有点天真，
and that has funds so when Mr pricky
而且有资金，所以当刺先生
creates this false Persona he feels like
创建这个虚假的角色时，他觉得
he's he's caught this big fish and he's
他就是他 钓到了这条大鱼，他正
trying to reel him in he wanted me to be
试图把他拉上来，他希望
available by phone whenever he rang if I
无论何时他打电话给我，如果我
wasn't there the next time he spoke with
不在，下次他和
me he would be indignant and angry I was
我说话时，他会感到愤慨和愤怒，我是
Meek and humble and polite the scammer
温顺、谦虚和礼貌的骗子
has this sense of urgency knowing that
有这种紧迫感，知道
there's a risk that Mr pricky might pull
刺先生可能会
out he's trying to assert his dominance
退出，他正越来越多地试图维护自己的主导地位，
increasingly so that finally when they
以便最终当他们真正
do get to the conversation about money
开始谈论金钱时，
he can try and extract as much as
他可以尝试尽可能多地提取
possible surprise surprise he'd found
他发现的惊喜
out it wasn't going to be
事情不会那么
straightforward and I needed to pay
简单，我需要支付一万
twelve thousand dollars in order for him
二千美元才能让他将这
to transfer these 12 million dollars
一千二百万美元
into my account
转入我的帐户
twelve thousand dollars I'm going to get
一万二千美元我将让
you to work for that money
你
using another email address I copy
使用另一个电子邮件地址为这笔钱工作我 复制
pasted the emails the scammer was
粘贴骗子
sending me into this fake scammers email
发送给我的电子邮件到这个假骗子电子邮件中，
sent them back to the scammer and said
将它们发送回骗子，并用
in Nigerian pidgin I'm already working
尼日利亚洋泾浜语说，我已经在
this man I'm inside his email box I've
这个人的工作中，我在他的电子邮箱里，我已经
hacked his email here is the email you
黑了他的电子邮件，这是您的电子邮件
sent him yesterday keep away I will send
昨天让他走开，我会把
Juju to you and kill you
Juju 发给你，杀了你，
he was on the phone so quickly there
他打电话的速度太快，
were friction marks on his keypad and he
键盘上有摩擦痕迹，他
said Mr Piggy Mr pricky your email has
说猪先生，刺先生，你的电子邮件
been hacked you must open a new email
已被黑客入侵，你现在必须打开一个新的电子邮件
account now now he was panicked because
帐户，现在他 很恐慌，因为
he thought a fellow scammer was going to
他认为一个骗子同伴会
chop his dollars that's how they call it
砍掉他的美元，他们就是这么称呼的。
I thought great he's bought in now now
我觉得很好，他现在已经买入了，现在
the scammer knows that he's only got a
骗子知道他只有
very short period of time to convince Mr
很短的时间来说服
pricky to send over the money before
刺先生先把钱汇过来
somebody else does I used another email
我用另一个电子邮件
account pretending it was new emailed
帐户假装是新的，给他发了电子邮件
him and said Chief don't worry here's a
，说酋长别担心，这是一个
new email account how do you want me to
新的电子邮件帐户，你要我如何
send the money he said right here's the
汇钱，他说这是正在
information sending now I went
发送的信息，现在我
completely silent I didn't take his
完全沉默了，我没有' 不接他的
calls I didn't answer his emails and the
电话，我没有回复他的电子邮件，
next day he rang me panicked and I
第二天他惊慌失措地给我
picked up and he said where have you
打电话，我接了电话，他说你
been where's it I said I sent it he said
去哪儿了，它在哪里，我说我已经发送了，他说
well where I said I sent it to the bank
很好，我说我已将它发送到银行
account in Ghana you sent me he went mad
帐户 在加纳，你发给我，他疯了，
he said what do you mean bank account in
他说你在加纳的银行账户是什么意思，
Ghana I said I've got your email here he
我说我在这里收到了你的电子邮件，他
said send it to me now so I forwarded
说现在就发送给我，所以我给
him an email from this fake scammer I'd
他转发了一封来自我发明的假骗子的电子邮件，
invented say Mr pricky this is Chief Ken
说先生 棘手的是，这是肯酋长，
is there's been a change of plan you're
计划有变，你要把
to transfer the money to this account in
钱转入加纳阿克拉的这个账户，
Accra Ghana when he got it he his head
当他收到钱时，他的头
must have exploded it takes so much time
一定爆炸了，需要太多的时间
and effort that their target is is
和精力，他们的目标是
Goldust so to lose something like that
戈德斯特，所以 失去这样的东西，
to see the opportunity slip out of their
看到机会从他们
hands it must be really infuriating he
手中溜走，这一定很令人气愤，他
called me he said you idiot this was a
打电话给我，他说你这个白痴，这是一个
scammer I haven't got a bank account in
骗子，我在加纳没有银行账户，
Ghana he went absolutely mad because he
他非常生气，因为他
thought this fellow scammer had stolen
认为这个骗子有
twelve thousand dollars from him what
从他那里偷走了一万二千美元，
this did beside giving me an enormous
这除了让我
laugh was that he believed that I had
大笑之外，还在于他相信我
money that I would send money and
有钱，我会寄钱，而
another scammer was intervening and
另一个骗子正在介入并
trying to steal money he came up with a
试图偷钱，他想出了一个
brainwave and the Brain Wave for me was
脑电波和我的脑电波
just orgasmic he said can you try travel
简直达到了高潮，他说你能尝试
to Amsterdam I have some officials there
去阿姆斯特丹旅行吗？那里有一些官员，
and you can give them the money in cash
你可以给他们现金，
I know you've got to send the money
我知道你必须
again Mr pricky but this is 12 million
再次汇款，刺先生，但这是 1200 万
dollars and you're going to get 40 of it
美元，你要 得到 40 个
I knew there was a fantastic live webcam
我知道阿姆斯特丹市中心有一个很棒的实时网络摄像头，
in central Amsterdam and I thought
我想
I'll go along with that
我会同意这个
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I found a website that generates fake
我发现了一个生成假
Airline boarding passes and I sent him
航空公司登机牌的网站，我向他发送了
these two boarding passes saying look
这两张登机牌说看
I'm coming to Amsterdam I'll meet your
我' 我要来阿姆斯特丹，第二天早上我会和你的
men the next morning here's where I'm
人见面，这就是我
staying and I said wait around here for
住的地方，我说
me
right in view of the camera and this
在镜头前等我，这个
scammer turned up and waited for me on
骗子出现了，并在
this live webcam on this phone trying to
手机上的实时网络摄像头上等我，试图 为了
get hold of me
抓住我，
I pretended I was there and every 20
我假装我在那儿，每隔 20
minutes we had this cycle of him saying
分钟，我们就会听到他说
where are you and me saying I've just
你和我在哪里，说我刚刚
come all the way down these three
拿着拐杖从这三层楼梯下来，
flights of stairs with my walking stick
and I couldn't see you I'm back up where
但我不能 看到你了我回来了
are you I kept him on the hook like this
你在哪里我让他像这样
this in and out in and out for about an
进进出出大约一个
hour and a half
半小时
yes you have fur or fur trim on your
是的你的兜帽上有毛皮或毛皮装饰
hood your anorak you have a hood with
你的风衣你有一个带
fur on it ground of fur yeah
毛皮的兜帽 是的，
I'm coming now
我现在就来，
and eventually he got so fed up he left
最终他受够了，他离开了
I then had the scammer in Nigeria chief
我，然后尼日利亚的骗子酋长
kanez on the phone to me desperate and
卡内斯在电话里绝望地给我打电话，
he then had to mediate between me and
然后他不得不在我和他
his friends in Amsterdam who just had
在阿姆斯特丹的朋友之间进行调解，他们只是
enough the next day he persuaded them to
第二天受够了，他说服了他们
come back
回来，
I thought what am I going to do today
我想我今天要做什么，
I got one of my Nigerian baiting friends
我让我的一位尼日利亚诱饵朋友
to come in a conference call with me and
来和我一起参加电话会议，并
speak with the scammer I played car
与骗子交谈。
noises in the background with a
soundboard and I said I'm in the car I'm
音板，我说我在车里，我
with your your rep now and then my
现在和你的代表在一起，然后我的
Nigerian friend spoke with him and said
尼日利亚朋友和他说话，说
we've kidnapped this guy we hacked his
我们绑架了这个人，我们侵入了他的
email we hacked his computer we knew
电子邮件，我们侵入了他的电脑，我们知道
this was happening we're taking him to
这正在发生，我们正在 带他去
the outskirts of Amsterdam we're going
阿姆斯特丹郊区，我们要
to collect the money and put the phone
收钱，然后挂断电话，
down I left it for about an hour and
我把电话搁置了大约一个小时，
then called him back almost crying they
然后给他回电话，几乎哭了，他们
bugged me they've beaten me they took my
骚扰我，他们殴打了我，他们拿走了我的
money they said have they taken all of
钱，他们说他们有吗？
it this shows complete lack of empathy a
综上所述，这表明完全缺乏同理心，
complete lack of conscience or guilt
完全缺乏良心或内疚，
which is very typical for a scammer so
这对于骗子来说是非常典型的，所以
it really shows that we need to be
这确实表明我们需要
careful interacting with people like
小心与这样的人互动，
this because there's almost no lengths
因为他们几乎没有什么
they won't get to to try and get their
无法做到的 试图拿到他们的
money so I said they took nine thousand
钱，所以我说他们拿了九千，
but I had 3 000 in my sock I've still
但我袜子里有三千，我
got some money said where are you so I
还有一些钱，说你在哪里，所以我
got my Dutch friend to come on the phone
让我的荷兰朋友接电话，
and start speaking in Dutch initially
开始用荷兰语说话，
and said oh he's assassin's such a
然后 说哦，他是刺客，这是一个
landmark he's here now this poor man
里程碑，他现在在这里，这个可怜的人，
he's cut he's bleeding he sent his
他被割伤了，他流血了，他派了
scammers in Amsterdam all the way to
阿姆斯特丹的骗子一路到
this area in the suburbs of the city to
城市郊区的这个地区
find me and of course I wasn't there
来找我，当然我不在那里，
foreign
外国人，
he still believed I had money and he
他仍然相信 我有钱，他
eventually persuaded his scamming friend
最终说服了他
in Manchester to travel to Lou in
在曼彻斯特的骗子朋友前往
Cornwall to meet me canes had changed
康沃尔郡的卢来见我。拐杖将
the fee from twelve thousand dollars to
费用从一万二千美元改为一万二千
twelve thousand pounds so of course I
英镑，所以我当然
agreed the kind of cognitive processes
同意我们所看到的那种认知过程。
that we're seeing the scammer go through
骗子的经历让
remind me of gambling addiction
我想起赌博成瘾，
sometimes a gambler has put in invested
有时赌徒
so much money in a bet that even when
在赌注中投入了如此多的钱，即使
the odds are stacked against them they
赔率对他们不利，他们
just feel compelled to see it through
也只是觉得有必要坚持到底，
that's what we're seeing here this
这就是我们在这里看到的
scammer has put in so much effort he's
骗子所投入的 他
already invested so much he wants to see
已经投入了如此多的努力，他想看到最后的
it through to The Bitter End he said
苦涩结局，他说
listen package that cash up safely I
听套餐，安全兑现我
said I certainly will I don't want to
说我当然会，我不想
tell him I've been baiting him but when
告诉他我一直在引诱他，但当
he gets home there isn't going to be a
他回家时
large amount of cash in this package and
这个包裹中不会有大量现金，
this is really important one thing we
这一点非常重要，我们
scambaters never do is educate the
骗子从来不会做的一件事就是教育
scammer
骗子，
because if we do that they're going to
因为如果我们这样做，他们就会
improve what they do and they're more
改进他们的做法，并且他们更有
likely to Rob your grandmother blind
可能 下次要抢劫你的祖母，
next time around I got one of my
我让我的一个
Nigerian baiting friends to type out a
尼日利亚诱饵朋友用
letter for me in Nigerian pigeon saying
尼日利亚鸽子给我写了一封信，说
we've beaten you again this time we came
我们这次又打败了你，
to the victim's house this morning and
今天早上我们来到受害者家，
told him that we were Bank officials and
告诉他我们是银行 官员们
that there was a lot of counterfeit
说有很多
money in circulation and we needed to
假币在流通，我们需要
check the money he'd withdrawn from the
检查他从银行提取的钱，
bank the day before one of us kept him
前一天我们一个人把他
occupied in the lounge and the other
留在休息室，另一个人
went into his kitchen and swapped the
走进他的厨房把
money for this scrap cardboard so I
钱换成钱。 这个废纸板所以我把
wrapped it all up the guy from
它全部包裹起来，来自曼彻斯特的那个人
Manchester came all the way down I gave
一路下来，我把
him this package shook his hand and off
这个包裹给了他，握了握他的手，然后
he went with what he thought was a
他带着他认为是
package of 12 000 pounds well thank you
12 000 磅的包裹走了，谢谢你的
for coming I appreciate it and there's
到来，我很感激，
been a lot of stress but I'm glad it's
压力很大，但我很高兴
over when he got back to his bed set in
当他回到曼彻斯特的床上时，一切都结束了，
Manchester he began to try and open this
package whenever a traveling scammer
每当旅行骗子
collects Cash He is instructed to video
收取现金时，他就开始尝试打开这个包裹，他被指示
with his phone the opening of it I had
用手机拍摄打开包裹的视频。 他
used a hundred meters of tape from a
用了一家
pound shop to wrap this up so he thought
磅货店的一百米长的胶带把它包起来，所以他以为
he was going to unpack it in a couple of
他会在几分钟内打开它，
minutes and he spent about an hour
opening I believe and eventually got it
我相信他花了大约一个小时打开它，最终把它
open and found all of this scrap
打开并发现了所有这些废纸
cardboard inside and then he read the
板 然后他读了给
note to canis the level of Fury and
卡尼斯的便条，
anger that came down that phone I don't
电话里传来的愤怒和愤怒的程度，我
think I've ever experienced rage from
想我
anybody on that scale ever in my life so
一生中从来没有经历过任何人如此规模的愤怒，所以
it was twice he'd been turned over by
他已经两次被翻身了 被
this rival scam gang and if he'd send
这个竞争对手的诈骗团伙骗了，如果他
somebody down a third time that would be
第三次派人下来那就
great but he didn't he walked away and
太好了，但他没有，他走开了，
that was the last I heard from him
这是我最后一次听到他的消息，
what I did to him this scammer in
我对他做了什么，这个
Nigeria was nobody's fault he had good
尼日利亚的骗子不是任何人的错，他
polished English his emails were well
他的英语很好，他的电子邮件整理得很好
put together and in asking for such a
，在向我索要这么
large sum from me twelve thousand
大一笔钱一万二千
dollars he was clearly confident
美元时，他显然很有信心，
unfortunately there's lots of different
不幸的是，有很多不同的
presentations and forms of con artists
演示和形式的骗子，
so I think we always have to be on high
所以我认为我们必须始终保持高度
alert if something is too good to be
警惕，如果 有些事情好得
true then it probably is it was
令人难以置信，那么可能是
particularly pleasing that I managed to
特别令人高兴的是，我设法
waste so much of his time this feeds
浪费了他这么多的时间，这增强了
into our sense of justice we know that
我们的正义感，我们知道
they're out hurting financially ruining
他们在经济上伤害了
vulnerable people so we like to see them
弱势群体，所以我们喜欢看到他们
get their comeuppance to a degree I like
让他们得到一定程度的报应 我喜欢
scambation for a few reasons it ties up
诈骗，有几个原因，它可以束缚
internet scammers and helps to keep them
网络诈骗者，并有助于
away from robbing your grandparents
防止他们盲目地抢劫你的祖父母，
blind that I think
我认为
the main reason
I am a scam baiter is because it's lots
我成为诈骗诱饵的主要原因是因为它很
of fun I'm sure that there was a
有趣，我确信
moralistic aspect to his actions but
他的行为有道德的一面，但
also it seems to very much amused him
似乎也让他很开心，
and I don't blame him good job Mr pricky
我不怪他，干得好，刺猬先生